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"Tom":1imco01f wrote:I emailed it to you the orginal looks slightly better but not much.[/quote:1imco01f]
Thanks. Original was only 320×240 though, I was hoping the original’d be 640×480 or higher then it’d look awesome <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” /> The sound quality on the one you sent me was definitely better though.Ryan,
Goalies usually approach the club directly and request permission for this type of thing. Or alternatively if the goalie is lazy and/or stupid the team manager does it for them. I’ve never heard of players borrowing club equipment for the Southern League, it probably has happened before, but I suspect this is the first time it’s happened at senior level – we have a strange team!
Ryan,
Welcome to Joe Sales who now has access in here <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” /> He’s that Canadian guy with the huge camera that coaches the Dunedin Juniors!Ryan,
Meeting? Woops, must’ve missed that.
I’m assuming those players on our team who don’t have their own equipment have sorted out equipment for taking away?
Ryan,
Another cool video Tom <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” />Is the original file better quality?
If so, it’d be great if you could email it to me at webadmin@dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi[/url:18y6w9ht] and I’ll upload it here to the site. I can handle up to 20 MB files by email. I said a while back that I wouldn’t be uploading copyrighted stuff like this, but I’ve changed my mind now. I can always pull it down if the copyright holders get pissy at me <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="
” title=”Tongue” />Ryan
"Kyle":3ka2sf3v wrote:The problem with having Mark (or anyone) dealing with the the communication with players, is that managers, coaches etc, need to contact players directly. They’re not going to email Mark and say ‘please pass onto all my players’, and they really know who they want to contact, so they’re going to want to control their list. There are very few instances where we need to contact all members of the club, as the only things that apply to all members of the club are things to do with registration, AGM etc. We do need the ability, when we want to advertise the DIHL, to contact all players older than peewee for example, or when we’re running a senior tournament to contact all senior players. So we need a system where Paul Roth has the ability to contact his juniors, but other people do as well. And it needs to be one system rather than more than one.[/quote:3ka2sf3v]My original intention when I volunteered for the contact list job was to provide lists to each team manager so they could email their team however they wanted. Centralising the process would however make it necessary for them to update the contact list directly themselves, or send corrections to the contact list person so I like that idea. I hadn’t figured out a solution to that problem previously but your suggestion sounds doable.
"Kyle":3ka2sf3v wrote:I mean take the money issue that sprung up a few weeks ago with the Beasts players finding out they were going to have to front up with a bunch of money soon. That was discussed for all teams months ago in the committee, and the reason the players didn’t know about it wasn’t that the Beasts don’t have a good communication system – as far as I can tell they have a fairly good communication system. Either the manager wasn’t at that meeting and no ‘official managers’ email went out to him, or he didn’t take it upon himself to figure out what that meant for his players and pass it on, or the association committee wasn’t clear enough about what they were discussing. Or a combination of the above. I was at the meeting where it was discussed, and I never came out of it with anything other than the impression that players would have to pay for practices in bulk, in advance.[/quote:3ka2sf3v]I was at all (almost) of the meetings for the past six months and had no idea that we were going to get lumped with a multi hundred dollar bill in a weeks time. I was under the impression that the idea had been canned since it hadn’t been implemented. So I’m not sure that that was clear at all to anyone – or maybe I missed something in a meeting somewhere. I don’t think that’s a communications problem, it was a lack of organisation on the part of whatever part of the club organises that stuff (I have no idea). Mark was well aware that the team was sposed to be paying up front, but was then told it would be weekly by Graham as were the rest of us. Anywhos, that’s off-topic, basically that’s not a communications problem per se – or at least not in regards to contact lists.
"Kyle":3ka2sf3v wrote:I’m happy to look into this, depending on how much success Mark has with it, in the second half of the year. After DIHL is finished and I’ve figured out what I want to do next.[/quote:3ka2sf3v]I was suggesting you present other peoples ideas, either in the form of an email you forward on or by mentioning it in a meeting. I wasn’t suggesting you actually do anything yourself, unless of course you want to <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” />Ryan,
Hmmm, I’ll try and remember to do some research on that some time. Webmail would definitely be a simpler way of doing it all rather than copying files all over the place – some people are bound to not download a new copy and keep using the old one, or not want to use pop mail or something and it’ll create a few bugs in the system. A standardised web mail format could help ease those problems.
Ryan,
"Kyle":3se0srwq wrote:Well the only thing that would need to be backed up would be the address book file, and that would be the one part that would have to be controlled centrally, so I would presume it could just be updated locally and then uploaded to the webmail.[/quote:3se0srwq]I didn’t know you could upload an LDIF file to the webmail system, is that doable with the RoundCube program I’m using at the moment and how do you do it?
Ryan,
The columns in the Excel spread sheet the stats were made in were the problem I think.
Basically, the columns would have looked fine in Excel, but not all of the columns would fit on a single page, so I adjusted some of them to suit. The A-grade ones were more messed up than the B-grade ones in fact, because although the columns matched the spread sheet, the last few were actually missing, albeit they were still there, but on another page …… actually I could rant for another hour about the idiosyncrasies of converting from spread sheets to PDF so I’ll shut up before you all fall asleep.
Anyhows, updated versions of the PDFs are now available for download, hopefully they’re in better shape now <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” />cheers,
RyanTrust Kyle to be the head of reason!
"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:There needs to be one system of communication, and people need to use that one system, so that people who have the information put it through the right channel, so that it gets picked up and passed on to other people who need to know – the secretary, the president, the web site administrator, etc.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]Sounds good.
"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:I agree that the vast majority should be done by email, backed up by the web site. This needs to be done centrally though. Ryan has pushed having one person be ‘communications officer’ or something similar.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]Not quite. I think the information needs to be provided to anyone who wants it rather than being kept secret which is how it feels at the moment. My solution was to volunteer to handle all the email communications for the club, after a month or so I gave up as the club never provided me with contact details and then it turned out that they didn’t have them anyway.
"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:I’d go the other way and say that there should be one site which controls communications, which one or more people would have access to. The web site has associated with it a webmail, why couldn’t all communication go through that – it could be set up with a good address book so people could choose teams – tick boxes to send an email to all the SIHL team players. One person might maintain it, but multiple people could access it. It could copy all emails sent to the secretary or something, who could then fire them onto other people who needed to know about that email.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]Mark Hareb is currently setting it up to use an LDIF (or similar) file tied in with an email program like Thunderbird or Outlook rather than webmail. He was looking at rather exotic systems using fancy online databases but I’ve convinced him (I think) that the LDIF route is better. I’m not sure if he considered using webmail. An annoying problem with the webmail system would be backing the data up as I can’t access that data directly – I don’t think so anyway.
"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:I personally don’t think anyone should go over the top about it now, I’d let the branding stuff settle in and think about putting in place systems later this year for next year.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]True, email wise at least, the contact details are being handled by Mark at the moment. Although he is fighting an uphill battle, as the club apparently hasn’t been updating player contact details for the past year or so (according to Joyce Miller). So all new details would need to come via team managers or contacting the players directly at practices etc. which is a lot of work. Encouraging the use of the web forum wouldn’t hurt, particularly if it was done in a polite fashion, but I wouldn’t hold my breathe that anyone’ll take up the offer. I haven’t really tried promoting the forum within the committee much though. I’d love it if they did start using it, but I suspect that’s an uphill battle. Give it 10 years and I think this method of discussion will be more viable, but until then I don’t see the bulk of the committee using the forum as a serious method of discussion. Having said that, I didn’t expect to see as much discussion going on as we’re getting now (this topic being a prime example) so I could be wrong – in fact I often am. But even with a bunch of 18-27 year olds we’re struggling to get much conversation going on in the Beasts forum (psst, that’s a secret, don’t tell anyone!) so trying to get a fleet of 40+ committee members to use the forum is quite an ask.
"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:I think the communication problems are rather deep-set in the association, and I think there are solutions. But I don’t think the best way to go about it is to sweep in and try and take charge and then give up when it proves to be hard.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]I wonder who that’s aimed at <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="
” title=”Tongue” />"Kyle":1lmbtc2z wrote:It is going to be hard, there needs to be buy-in from the whole association, as everyone will need to be involved with the communication, as no one person has the information and the need to pass it on.[/quote:1lmbtc2z]It is a very small handful however. Particularly as far as practices times go as they’re all controlled (in theory) by one person.
I’m working on the practice time issue though, I’m hoping that the scheduling system will fix that, but it’ll need to be idiot proof and well integrated to do the job properly. We’ll see in time how well it works. That is on the back burner for the mean time though as I’m busy with other stuff at the moment.
This is definitely a good topic for debate. It’s a serious (IMO) problem the club is facing and there are moves underfoot to improve the situation. The forum will hopefully be part of the solution.
[b:1lmbtc2z]I strongly suggest that if anything is going to be presented to the committee that it be done through Kyle (I’m assuming he wouldn’t mind) as he has a good of what’s going on and isn’t part of the communication problem – he is in fact a good example of how things should be done IMO. I think I also have a good idea of what’s going on, but I’m also quite opinionated and that’s not necessarily a good thing when it comes time to send what is essentially a critique of what other people are doing – Kyle is somewhat more tactful than myself <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="
” title=”Tongue” />[/b:1lmbtc2z]Ryan,
