[Ryan Hellyer]

Chris and I were inundated with spam last night, they were coming in thick and fast. I got rid of the bastard by banning their IP and email address and then deleting them.

I accidentally/sort of intentionally got rid of one of the anti-spam protections from the forum during the changeover, I can put it back the way it was but it was possibly banning REAL users from registering which isn’t good so I’m not going to put it back.

Unfortunately, all the mods at [url:3n3wlyvk]http://www.phpbb.com[/url:3n3wlyvk] seem to have lost all their links <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="” title=”Sad” /> So I’m going to have to wait for them to sort their shit out before I can get rid of the spammers <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="” title=”Sad” /> Their site went down rather spectacularly last week and they haven’t been able to get the original back up and running so they’ve installed the new version which was due for a release in a few months, but it’s still not finished by the looks of it! A total pain in the ass!

Deleting them usually doesn’t do anything, once they’re gone they’re gone. Apart from the one last night, but I think the IP ban got that one.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

Hi Ryan,

Just deleted posts from curixman and BSLover which didn’t fit within the realm of PG.

You might want to delete their users, I’m not sure how to do that.

Kyle

[Ryan Hellyer]

"Kyle":1tlqpbmg wrote:

The DIHA rulebook in several places overrules the IIHF rulebook. I can’t find it on the web site at present (Ryan, there doesn’t seem to be an obvious link to it?).[/quote:1tlqpbmg]

Here it is:
http://www.dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi/docum … lebook.pdf

It’s linked to in the rules section of the DIHL page. I’m not sure where else to link to it from.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

"rookie#19":2axz0djt wrote:

whose belief was it that the IIHF had a rule on visors having to be HECC regulation visors??[/quote:2axz0djt]

No one, you are definitely confused.
The [b:2axz0djt]NZIHA[/b:2axz0djt] recommends that players wear HECC approved helmet and visors, but it is literally just a recommendation. The IIHF rule book AFAIK does not mention HECC anywhere.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

The email address of guest is twenty_dollars_nz@hotmail.com.
Unfortunately I can’t track that back to anyone playing hockey <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="” title=”Sad” /> And it doesn’t show up in a Google search.

The email address of each user isn’t accessible from within the forum software directly, but I tracked it down inside the raw database tables.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

"guest":1pmylv2w wrote:

I think the key word in that clast comment was [b:1pmylv2w][u:1pmylv2w]RECOMMEND[/u:1pmylv2w][/b:1pmylv2w] THIs entire fiasco is utter crap. I do think that if the DIHL does want to enforce this kind of BS, then expect the more tallented players to leave because of this.[/quote:1pmylv2w]

You seem to be missing the point.
The DIHL isn’t insisting on enforcing anything, just wanting to clarify the rules either way. If rules aren’t going to be enforced then why have them? Simple solution is to change the rules which Kyle doesn’t seem to be against.

You guys sure do get excited over an argument essentially to do with minor semantics of a rule book!

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

"Kyle":801e6opg wrote:

And the figure of three million for covering a rink with ice, which they must have got from the importer. What tosh. It’s three million if you include the boards, boxes, benches, netting etc etc maybe, and then throw a million dollars into the rubbish. Those still apply to synthetic stuff.[/quote:801e6opg]

Yeah, they also said it costs $700,000 to make a full-sized synthetic ice surface which is a bit steep! That must be very expensive synthetic ice they’re using <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="” title=”Tongue” /> And it’s not exactly a new invention either, they’ve been round for years. From what I’ve read now it’s total crap anyway, not worth skating on and doesn’t last very long. You’d be replacing your $700,000 rink every year by the sound of it and we’d be sharpening our skates every hour!

And the number of rinks in NZ AFAIK are:
(1) Dunedin Ice Stadium – Corrine Gilkison rink (indoor)
(2) Dunedin Ice Stadium – Caversham Foundation rink (indoor)
(3) Christchurch Alpine Ice Arena (Indoor)
(4) Gore Multisports Complex (Indoor)
(5) Queenstown (indoor – sort of, it has a roof but no real walls)
(6) Naseby (artificial outdoor)
(7) Naseby (artificial indoor)
( Alexandra (artificial outdoor)
(9) Tekapo (artificial outdoor – construction due to finish within next month)

and some other ones which I found mentioned at [url:801e6opg]http://aardwolfsice.com[/url:801e6opg], although I suspect they’re just ponds. Maybe they have stumpy boards like Tekapo but I’m not sure.

(10) Fairlie Ice Rink
(11) Mt Cheeseman Ice Rink
(12) Staveley Ice Rink

[Ryan Hellyer]

"rookie#19":k47kfebl wrote:

Are u fkn kidding me?? Under IIHF rules there is nothing on HECC certification??[/quote:k47kfebl]

Um, not sure what you’re meaning there.

The IIHF rule book AFAIK doesn’t mention HECC certification anywhere but the NZIHA rule book does recommend the use of HECC certified gear which is where I got most of the equipment rules from as they were more thorough (which is what the DIHL committee and some members of the DIHA committee asked for).

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

I have a request <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="” title=”Smiley” /> This is apparently possible, but I’m not sure how difficult is to implement.

It would be great to be able to output the stats, schedules, team rosters etc. directly to PDF so that they could be sent as emails, printed easily etc.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

Lol, yeah, I got really confused the first time he posted as I’d only recently shut down the ability to post a guest.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

I think this is where I got it from:
[quote:b1wd578g]From: [url:b1wd578g]http://www.nziha.kiwiwebhost.net/nzihasub/information/game_rules/2006%20rulebook%20sect%201%20to%203.pdf[/url:b1wd578g]
NOTE: Although some protective equipment is not mandatory in all age classifications, it is strongly recommended that all players in all age classifications properly wear an internal mouthpiece, a H.E.C.C., approved helmet and a H.E.C.C.,approved full face mask for all games
and practices.[/quote:b1wd578g]

But that was just a recommendation, not a requirement.
Their requirements are:
[quote:b1wd578g]Also from: [url:b1wd578g]http://www.nziha.kiwiwebhost.net/nzihasub/information/game_rules/2006%20rulebook%20sect%201%20to%203.pdf[/url:b1wd578g]
Mandatory equipment for players over 18 years of age is: helmet designed for hockey with helmet strap properly fastened, elbow pads, gloves designed for hockey and knee and shin protection . Players 19 and 20 years old must wear either full facial protection or half visor/half cage.[/quote:b1wd578g]

So my bad and I fully intend to recommend a change to the rule at the next meeting.

And just to drag this topic out a bit longer <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="” title=”Tongue” /> I agree with Stefan that pretty much all un-certified visors are fine. They’re made of super tough polycarbonate and it’s pretty hard to go wrong with something which is essentially just a bent bit plastic attached with screws. I guess in theory they could be too flexible and not stop a puck slamming into your face at full speed or the screws could fail, but I doubt that would ever be a problem.

However Kyle is also correct that the H.E.C.C. people probably know more about this stuff than any of us, and the visors approved by them probably are a little safer than non certified ones.

Either way I have no intention of ever wearing a visor, I’m happy with my crappy old cage. I’m ugly enough as it is without adding a few scars to the mix <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="” title=”Smiley” />

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

"Kyle":2l7m30mh wrote:

And before anyone says it was me, I didn’t write that part of the rulebook, Ryan did.[/quote:2l7m30mh]

I suspect I pinched that from the NZIHA (inline hockey) rules which are more thorough on equipment issues than the IIHF/NZIHF. For example, shin guards, elbow pads and gloves etc. are compulsory for inline hockey whereas they aren’t for ice hockey AFAIK.

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

Well I think the idea here is to remove the rule, so your opinion is kinda of a moot point.

[quote:kncpsvay]haha, ru serious who is this??[/quote:kncpsvay]
Hmm, the plot thickens! I reckon I have a good idea who it is actually, but I’m not going to say incase I’m wrong <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif" alt="” title=”Tongue” />

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

Phil PJ and Mark Hareb haven’t registered. Phil was asked (along with the rest of the committee) to let me know if they want access and he didn’t reply.

I’ll give him access though, will do that tonight. Plus will add Paul Roth too.

Off-topic, there are some posts going in here which don’t really need to be secret. That’s why you’ll see that Chris’s stats topic got moved into the main forum, who knows, there may be another hockey playing mega uber computer geek out there who can help!

Ryan,

[Ryan Hellyer]

Looks like I need to go learn something about databasing <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="” title=”Sad” /> I’m totally lost with all this SQL stuff.

Ryan,

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