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"battered_and_bruised":1rek5ahs wrote:The other thing with the age is the numbers. We don’t have the numbers to put the age up to 16 min and if you pushed to 18, well then there really would be a lack of numbers.
[/quote:1rek5ahs]I also think that there is a maturity aspect here. Granted, I’m not yoda-like when it comes to serenity, but recently I’ve been particularly unimpressed by the belligerence and discourtesy of younger players. I’m not talking about mere rough playing either, as everyone knows that I’ve always been a fan of a bit of rough and tumble, but that certainly does come into it as well.
"Ryan":1rek5ahs wrote:"battered_and_bruised":1rek5ahs wrote:The other thing with the age is the numbers. We don’t have the numbers to put the age up to 16 min and if you pushed to 18, well then there really would be a lack of numbers.
[/quote:1rek5ahs]Depends how many teams you want. At the moment there’s probably enough players for eight B-grade teams if the advertising for it was pushed hard enough. So losing the littleuns would drop to six teams, then four if it went to 18. You are correct though, going to 18 straight away would be quite risky.
The thing is, I think there would be more interest from older players if there weren’t so many ankle biters competing. I remember the old DIHL which had an 18 year old cut-off which was far more social than the current competition, partly I think because everyone could go for a beer afterwards.
I’d prefer to see the kids competing as part of their rep. teams in the DIHL, ie: Dunedin Midgets field a team in the B-grade. I think this would encourage players to strive to be on those rep. teams and would give them some good, stiff local competition which they don’t have too much of at the moment.
Just my opinion though and I don’t think many people agree with me on this.
Ryan,
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I’m in absolute agreement here, and I had in fact just written a near identical post when Ryan posted his.
"Ryan":3p54ncnw wrote:"Chris":3p54ncnw wrote:Umm, what the fuck? I’m 100% sure it was ME who made that post, then ryan edited it! It’s switched us around! LOL![/quote:3p54ncnw]No, I’m 100% sure it was ME who made that post, then YOU edited it. I’m pretty sure I had two quotes in there too, one from you and one from Mike. With no text by myself. Perhaps you hit modify instead of quote and got it all messed up?
Ryan,
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Oh shit, yes, that must have been exactly what I did.
"Michael":3p54ncnw wrote:well Chris, theres still a good chance I can still leave at the same time, but whoever is coming with me be prepared to leave a little later if I have to.
[/quote:3p54ncnw]Ok, I understand, I don’t imagine that will be a huge issue
Personally, I’d be keen to split the grads that way anyway, because at the moment the B-Grade covers far too much ground. The better players are so far ahead of the beginners that it ‘s overly unbalanced.
I’d much rather compact the grades and do a double round-robin.
The Premier series would then sweep up the best of the A grade
"Ryan":3etmxuf1 wrote:"Michael":3etmxuf1 wrote:I can take another 2 people that will be needing to leave later, not later than 4pm however.
[/quote:3etmxuf1]Ok, so from this I assume that mike can leave at 1pm with the rest of us, while rob takes jane and possibly Julian at 4.
Sexy.
[/quote:3etmxuf1]Umm, what the fuck? I’m 100% sure it was ME who made that post, then ryan edited it! It’s switched us around! LOL!
"Michael":3etmxuf1 wrote:No, I can’t leave until 4 on the worst case scenario as Rachel doesn’t finish class until 4pm, however sometimes they finish early so I was planning to leave as soon as shes done. Eg. have all the gear packed and leave straight from there.so it could be any time between 1 – 4pm, most likely earlier but count on it being as late as 4pm.
[/quote:3etmxuf1]Ok, cheers mike.
Bugger, that means two cars leaving later, or one car with five people leaving later, which would be waaaay more efficient.
"nobbie":1xulukzc wrote:forgive me for not reading all of the last 12 pages of this forum – i will be leaving at 4.00pm as I have a job.Currently Jason has asked me for a ride and am happy to take one or two others – please email to let me know if you require a ride.
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Cheers Rob.
That being the case, I’ll wait for a response from Julian and Daria and then work out the exact car placements later.
Mike, was there a special reason you were leaving later, or did somebody just write that down?
"Ryan":1xulukzc wrote:"nobbie":1xulukzc wrote:Currently Jason has asked me for a ride and am happy to take one or two others – please email to let me know if you require a ride.[/quote:1xulukzc]How ’bout people don’t email Rob. Like I said … we don’t want to give Chris a hernia!
Ryan,
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” title=”Smiley” />"Ryan":2iq6aw3g wrote:Okay, seriously! What the hell kinda hockey player can play a bazillion games and then break their ankle of the ice, I mean jeeze, how crazy, random and uncommon is that[/url:2iq6aw3g]?
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"Ryan":2znrmkyu wrote:"Chris":2znrmkyu wrote:Another quick note, I’d be keen to help out organizing the Autumn 2008 DIHL, since I’ll still be in Dunedin for sure. [/quote:2znrmkyu]We should meet with Kara after the current DIHL. Sort out some sort of plan. Kara is keen to help with B-grade, so if you took control of the A-grade that may work quite well. I’m keen to keep my nose butted in just like I have with Jane, although I’d prefer things to be sorted further in advance next time.
Ryan,
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works for me <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smiley.gif" alt="
” title=”Smiley” />Whoa whoa whoa, hold your horses boys. Let’s not get carried away. I feel a hernia coming on! <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gif" alt="
” title=”Wink” />Andy is going up by himself essentially, because if we have a space for people to come back down then we have a space for them going up. That is, of course, unless [b:1knvldje]someone else is planning to stay till tuesday. If this is the case, please let me know VERY soon[/b:1knvldje].
Mike is leaving at 4, as I understand, with Jane and Julian (provided he’s still going – Juls, I need confirmation soon). Tim has class til 1, so the majority of us will leave at 1.
Mike’s car, leaving at 4:
Mike
Rachel
Jane
Julian (provided juls is still going!!!! ankle? wtf???)Rob wants to take his car, so he’ll be leaving at 1 with the rest of us:
Rob’s car:
Rob
Jason
Nick
EstelleMy Car, leaving at 1 with the gear:
Chris
Tim
Ryan
DariaMark’s car, leaving at 1:
Mark
Callan
Neil"Ryan":1j78om6u wrote:I’ve always advocated 16 minimum, preferably 18 and only go lower if yer desperate for players. There was a decision at the first DIHL meeting I organised a few years ago to allow high school kids to compete as we had no idea how many players we’d get and didn’t want to come up short. No one has liked it when I’ve suggested increasing the age limit though <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="
” title=”Sad” /> Anything less than 13 is ridiculous IMO. Currently the players under 13 need to get a dispensation to compete.
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Sixteen is also good. You’re definitely right about under 13s though, it’s crazy.
Another quick note, I’d be keen to help out organizing the Autumn 2008 DIHL, since I’ll still be in Dunedin for sure.
